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Old 01-09-2018, 07:23 PM   #11
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I think I read somewhere that it helps with open string notes? It's only $12 for the bone and $16 for the brass. Is it worth it?
Maybe I'm missing something?

As I understand it, the open notes are a result of tightening the string to a certain pitch. It's a particular tension between 2 fixed points and the frets are spaced at divisions of that distance. Intonation, (at the bridge) syncs that distance to the fret spacing at the 12th fret (1/2). Any note, other than an open string depends totally on the distance between the fret and bridge.

Unless the frets are off somehow, how does this make any positive difference?
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Unless you're playing slide only, I don't see how that's helpful. Get a compensated bridge.
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I have an open mind, but if one is used, it has to be mounted forwards of the current nut position. They won't work just by replacing the existing nut and cutting back a couple of the slots, because the intention is to shorten the distance to the 1st fret of some strings. Her's an example:

http://www.shop.earvana.com/ESP-Acou...SPACOUSTIC.htm

On a Fender style, the nut slot in the fretboard would have to be widened forwards:

http://www.shop.earvana.com/Fender-LSR-Style-FDRLSR.htm



They are still a compromise, but they affect the intonation of the fretted strings, as is the intention, since on the compensated strings, the frets are in a different position relative to the open strings.

I wouldn't have a bar of those in your pics. Snake oil.
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What happened???? I commented on this silly idea and it didn't post.
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sounds like a Real Charm,Snake Charm,I would only buy one if I needed a new nut and it was the same priceas aTypical Nut
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Old 01-09-2018, 10:28 PM   #16
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also if your intoneation goes off from open to fretted its in string highth from the neck
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also if your intoneation goes off from open to fretted its in string highth from the neck
I can be, but a good setup can fix that. It is also related to string stiffness, as in compensated saddles and why strings are longer than the scale length. The high school physics text book pic of a string vibrating from the ends is a simplification. If a string has any stiffness there is a short dead spot at each end, the length of that dead spot being related to the degree of stiffness.
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What a load of crap. This thing reminds me of the guitar someone came out with that had a bent fret in the first position that was supposed to correct intonation problems on that string. Geee.... I wonder why we don't see those on all new guitars. Hmmmmmm..... I think I know why.
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Ooooooh, where? How?
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