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Old 01-09-2018, 04:37 PM   #1
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Default Compensated nuts?

There's a company on eBay selling "compensated nuts".

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They have them in brass too.

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Guitar intonation is an often overlooked procedure which, when done properly, helps you get each string properly tuned. This means that your guitar sounds great regardless of whether you're fretting or playing open chords. How many times have you been playing, sounding great, when you bounce into an open C chord and suddenly the tuning sounds terrible? A properly compensated nut will fix this.

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In our experience, the three treble strings are typically the most bothersome with respect to intonation. Who knows why, they simply are. So, we've specially slotted our compensated nut at the G, B and high E slots. By removing material to the proper depth in those three slots, the scale length for those strings is increased just enough.

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Our flat-bottom nut is hand ground and sanded from solid bone and round-slotted for perfect string placement. 1 11/16" long, 1/8" thick, 3/16" tall. Fits any Fender style electric guitar.


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Old 01-09-2018, 05:53 PM   #2
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At first thought, this sounds like a good idea. Why should all the intonation compensation be done at the bridge? Wouldn't it be better to "spread it out" along the length of the string? And you do that by changing both the bridge and the nut.

But as soon as you fret a string, the nut is removed from the picture. Along with any compensation. This is all smoke and mirrors. Spend your money on another guitar, not on this.
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But as soon as you fret a string, the nut is removed from the picture. Along with any compensation.
Ummm... no. The entire length of the string falls into the equation, not just the length between the fret and the bridge.

This is one of those things where people will argue without having tried it. Try before you cry, I say.

I'm taking bets.
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Ummm... no. The entire length of the string falls into the equation, not just the length between the fret and the bridge.

This is one of those things where people will argue without having tried it. Try before you cry, I say.

I'm taking bets.
Are you saying that the length of string between my fretting finger and the nut makes a difference in the intonation? How could that be possible? What about the length of string between the nut and tuner post?
I'm not being snarky here, you may know something that I don't, and I'm curious.
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Are you saying that the length of string between my fretting finger and the nut makes a difference in the intonation? How could that be possible?
Imagine the neck being a foot longer than it is (or even an inch longer), but the 12th fret being the same distance from the bridge saddle. Tune the string to E. Will you get an E at the 12th fret then?

The guitar is not a tempered instrument. You can get perfect pitch at open and 12th, but ALL other frets are going to be slightly off-kilter, no matter how you slice it. Compensating at the head of the neck as well as at the bridge can bring things a teeny bit closer to true. If this weren't the case, why don't we just make things easier and cheaper by having bridges made with a non-adjustable saddle?

Try a compensated bridge sometime. Everybody (including several who teach at the conservatory - trained ears here) who has tried mine has said Oooooh or Aaaaaah or Holy Fucking Shit the second they hear what it does.
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Are you saying that the length of string between my fretting finger and the nut makes a difference in the intonation? How could that be possible? What about the length of string between the nut and tuner post?
I'm not being snarky here, you may know something that I don't, and I'm curious.
Whoa, hang on. There is a difference in intonation of a long scale neck(Strat) and a short scale neck(LP). Long scale necks play in tune better than short scale necks. Then why are there short scale necks? Because you don't have to stretch so far when playing Jazz chords. Don't take my word for it, even though I'm right, check around and verify what I said.
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Sounds like a solution trying to invent a problem.
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But as soon as you fret a string, the nut is removed from the picture. Along with any compensation. This is all smoke and mirrors. Spend your money on another guitar, not on this.
That was my initial thought. I'm going to NAMM.
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That was my initial thought. I'm going to NAMM.
Maybe I'll join you. Where is NAMM? Did you hear Gibson isn't going?
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Maybe I'll join you. Where is NAMM? Did you hear Gibson isn't going?
It's in Anaheim but Gibson won't be there.
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